where do we gain our wistem from? and how do we make ourselves think about our choices

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Post 1 by Manwe (The Dark Lord) on Friday, 10-Feb-2006 8:30:06

well i thought this is an interesting question to ask.

where do we as people draw on for wistem? is it friends? our experiences, or is it other things to. when I need advice I draw on very very spacific people. especially when it comes to issues of morral right and wrong and stuff like that. I know certainly that when ever i need to take council and go into deep thought, i tend to listen to stuff like the lord of the rings sound tracks. i don't know there's just something about them, there is for me at least something about the whole book that somehow i can relate to. not that i go round wielding sawds and looking for rings of power lol, but i do find the books to be very very deep and full of things unspoken if you read between the lines.

i find that music like lord of the rings does tend to help clear my head whilst music like enya relaxes me and makes me sleep. so then what do we all draw upon at our time of greatest need?

and my favorite quoat from the lord of the rings is this. from gandalf, can't get it precisely but here goes. "some who deserve death receive life. Others who deserve life receive death. can you give it to them? then don't be to eager to deal out death in judgement. for not even the wise can forsee all ends."

Post 2 by Texas Shawn (The cute, cuddley, little furr ball) on Friday, 10-Feb-2006 9:03:18

well: for me it's spiritual, a few close friends, books and music. when I say spiritual I am not talking about any religious teachings just asking what ever higher power you see fit for guidance. trying to stay in today and not getting mixed up in what could happen or what will happen. Friends I have two close ones and a wife that can get me unmixed up at times. Then there's books most anything that's happened to others they've written about, you can learn a lot from great people and those who weren't so great as well.

Post 3 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Friday, 10-Feb-2006 9:13:26

Gandalf should be a living breathing being..I too find LOTR very helpful when I'm struggling to understand the madness of our world...as for sources of wisdom hmm Dad relatives friends,also I take what I've learned from mistakes I've made in the past and try to apply it to bringing up my son...

Post 4 by Perestroika (Her Swissness) on Friday, 10-Feb-2006 13:09:02

I generally rely on my experiences rather than spiritual guidance, just because i'm an atheist. I like to put my trust in reason and science. because there's evidence of them working. i like to see things on paper.

Post 5 by Godzilla-On-Toast (I've now got the silver prolific poster award! wahoo!) on Friday, 10-Feb-2006 16:40:02

Wisdom? Not sure if I even have much of that. Could be a load of BS for all I know far as what's in my own head is concerned. But I mainly go on my own experiences and my observations on people and how they act. I'm really not all that spiritual at all so I let others do the spiritual bit. Books are good sometimes depending on if I get something from them at hte time, although I'm prety exclusively a reader of fiction, and pretty unrealistic fiction at that.

Post 6 by Manwe (The Dark Lord) on Sunday, 12-Feb-2006 10:49:32

i do agree to some degree gal yeah, although on the other hand there are some things that can't just be explained away. i love science but i think that it can go to deeply into certain things i think that lets say genetic engeneering for example, it shouldn't be doing what people are doing. cloning humans for example. but yes using logic and other things you can find answers to alot of things, but sometimes it's how you get there that counts. and that is a process in itself.

Post 7 by dissonance (Help me, I'm stuck to my chair!) on Sunday, 12-Feb-2006 12:12:20

I rely on my own conscience and values, the actions of my family members, books and things that I learn just be being around people, my own mistakes....I have several significantly older friends who I learn from just by talking to them

Post 8 by Manwe (The Dark Lord) on Sunday, 12-Feb-2006 13:05:23

yes i like to have friends who are older than me that's for sure.

Post 9 by yellowcat (Zone BBS Addict) on Sunday, 12-Feb-2006 14:01:24

Right now my life has been turned upside down and older people really are NOT always wiser. I am having to re-evaluate so much of what I thought I knew. Perhaps when it is all over it will have been a learning experience - but right now it sucks!!

Post 10 by Manwe (The Dark Lord) on Sunday, 12-Feb-2006 18:29:20

sometimes the wiser you become the less you actually know. or the wiser you become the less choices you have because you see the folly of the other choices that you could make. so as a result those other choices become no choices at all. we are all having to re-evaluate our lives from time to time, that's something that we all do.

Post 11 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Thursday, 16-Feb-2006 10:26:30

So what is the answer